The Business of Cults is a three-part series hosted by Rebekah Sebastian with the DIE-ALOGUE Podcast and Javier Leiva of PRETEND podcast. Over the next three episodes, you will hear from; cult experts Rick Alan Ross and Dr. Janja Lalich, author and linguist, Amanda Montell, ABC Correspondent, Rebecca Jarvis, Cult Survivors, Frank Lyford, and Sarah Edmondson.

Part one focuses on The C Suite: Chief Cult Executives. Part two features an interview with former NXIVM member Sarah Edmondson. And Part three explores the question, can a cult survive without its leader?

I had so much fun talking with Amanda Montell, a linguist, who uses that background as the lens through which to explore cults. Between that and her Dad coming of age in the cult, Synanon, she has a lot to say about cults, and the language we all have grown used to which is ... cultish. This is a fascinating and funny conversation and will make you think twice next time you go to Soul Cycle, recovery meeting, or Boss Babe seminar.

The directors of LuluRich, Jenner Furst and Julia Willoughby Nason, delve into their why's and how they got LulaRow founders, Mark and Deanne, to talk, and also a burgeoning new category of content: TRUE COMEDY.

Our conversation transcends leggings and gets into a more meta exploration of the genre, our broken country, and how it makes us long for something we can't attain so we end up hawking products to friends in the hopes of a life changing opportunity.